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   Public Consultation Grove Green Update    February 7, 2019

At its meeting on 4 February the parish council's Environment Committee considered the report detailing the responses received from the public consultation.

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Agenda report

Public Consultation on restricted parking Road Traffic Orders for parts of Grove Green. A more detailed report is enclosed for members however what has come from the consultation is as follows.

Three main parking issues have been identified in Grove Green by residents.

1. Dangerous and irresponsible parking, on or opposite junctions, by commuters on Grovewood Drive South (GWDS).

2. Problems during current school drop off and pick up times, especially Provender Way.

3. Future parking, drop off and pick up caused by the STEM School.

Clerk’s note. With three issues identified and with numerous suggestions, comments and demands it is not going to be possible to meet everyone’s needs.  There is a clear issue when one or two closes want something but others do not and action taken to appease one close might adversely impact on another. If, as a result of the public consultation, the parish council wishes to make a recommendation or suggestion to KCC Highways then possibly the most important requirement is that whatever is suggested does not make the existing problems worse.

Possibly many residents only see one problem, parking, however there is actually a different set of problems for commuter and parent/carer parking, theoretically the former is easier to ‘control/manage’ than the latter.

KCC and Boxley Parish Council are not ‘enforcing authorities’ in the case of parking restrictions that is Maidstone Borough Council, and it cannot be forced into sending a Civic Warden to an area and so installation of more DYL may not be enforced.

It should be noted that St John’s School has attempted on many occasions to try to resolve the issues around inconsiderate and sometimes dangerous parking by parents/carers and have been ignored and on occasions abused.

Important information

Clear statements have been made by many residents about having no parking at all on Grovewood Drive South (preferably from New Cut Road junction to Weavering Street) and for any installed full double yellow lines to be enforced. Normally these statements are accompanied by comments about safety and buses being unable to be easily passed. Also accompanying the statements are references to not having non-residents park on the close and free residential parking being provided. Clerk’s note: If DYL with no parking is placed on GWDS then it is probable that approx. 30 vehicles will be displaced into adjacent closes.

  • Statements received about needing to be able to safely cross Grovewood Drive South and also for the bus to be able to freely move along its route.

Clerk’s note.  Double yellow lines at the junctions on Provender Way and Grovewood Drive South are currently out to (KCC) consultation but it has been noted that they are not planned for the New Cut Road/Grovewood Drive South junction or the Weavering Street junction. If parking is to remain then some stretches of DYL along Grovewood Drive South and Provender Way may help drivers and the buses to move safely along/pass on the road during high periods of parking.

  • Many residents do not wish to be affected by any parking restrictions, nor do they wish their visitors to be caught out.  The questionnaire did not include a question on whether Resident Parking Permit Zones would be acceptable but many responders brought this up and emotions are quite high that numerous parking permits need to be given out to householders for free.

Clerk’s note. MBC is responsible for Resident Parking Permit Zones.If it identifies a need then an area will be canvassed and a zone can be declared however there is an annual fee (which funds administrative costs and enforcement). The first resident permit costs £25, a second £25 and the third £50, no more than three permits will be provided to a property and there would be a £10 charge to replace any lost permits.

  • In some closes there is no or insufficient on driveway parking and residents have to park on the road.
  • Three closes have disabled residents with need for on-street parking for carers etc.
  • Placing double yellow lines (restricted or not) on Grovewood Drive South would simply push parking into the adjacent closes, which is totally unacceptable to residents.
  • Whilst recognising the great inconvenience caused to residents anyone choosing to live close to a school (and in fact any large venue) will be impacted upon by visitors/users. Drop off and pick up times are recognised by similarly affected communities as a nightmare and it is highly likely that even if yellow lines are in place they will be ignored by parents/carers and not enforced by MBC.

Clerk’s note. The statistics below are supplied with the following warning:

  • Residents living in different roads/closes have very different experiences of trying to safely access/egress their roads.
  • KCC is planning to install DYL at some of the junctions and it is not known what effect these will have.
  • Statistics can be read in many different ways. The following statistics show support for many issues but when the individual comments are read support often carries a caveat, ‘only if…’ was a common one, that can negate the response.  
  • It could be argued that a 48.7% response rate is not a mandate for drastic action.

Summary of responses

440 properties were provided with questionnaires,

234 properties responded (53.82%)

255 questionnaires received however a few properties gave responses from adults living at that property.

Summary by percentage of responses to individual questions (using only yes/no responses).

 

Responses

Yes

No

1 Do you wish to see any form of restricted parking introduced into the area ?

See list of roads on attached.

91.6

8.8

2 Do you consider the proposed restricted parking area to be roughly right?

 

83.26

17.02

3 Do you wish to see restricted parking in your close/road?

 

78.32

22.44

4 Do you consider the suggested 2 hour no parking duration to be correct?

The proposed restriction is 11.00 am – 1.00 pm. If not what would you prefer?

67.5

33.48

5 Would you support some limited parking, without time restriction, on Grovewood Drive South?

63.8%

36.9%

Clerks suggestion.

It is suggested that the results of the survey are supplied to KCC Highways so that the officer can see residents’ strength of feeling. Due to the number of conditions accompanying residents’ comments it may not be right to reach a conclusion on whether Restricted Parking is put in place. Rather identify possible improvements that could alleviate some of the current problems without too much of an adverse impact on residents.

Request a site meeting with KCC Highways to discuss possible additional yellow lines to other junctions, close to drop down kerbs including stretches on Provender Way to allow a ‘passing area’ between parked cars.

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Draft minute of decision

Public Consultation on restricted parking Road Traffic Orders for parts of Grove Green. The Clerk was congratulated on the report. After lengthy discussion members agreed that:

  • Due to the number of conditions accompanying residents’ comments it was not right for the parish council to reach a conclusion on whether Restricted Parking is put in place. Therefore, a copy of the report is to be supplied to KCC Highways so that the officer can see residents’ strength of feeling.
  • The parish council could suggest possible improvements that could alleviate some of the current problems without too much of an adverse impact on residents. Therefore, the parish council is to request a site meeting with KCC Highways (during school pick up time) to discuss possible additional yellow lines on other junctions and close to drop down kerbs including stretches on Provender Way to allow a ‘passing area’ between parked cars.

The report is to be made more widely available to residents with an explanation of what is being proposed by the parish council. Action: Clerk.

 

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